milan 8.5 class

[johnquick302]

anybody else gonna run it this year. im pretty pumped up about it. 1/8th mile stuff, small tires, not enough room for turbo cars to run around me, cant wait. this might turn into my new addiction, class racing...:mad:

[Boomer!]

I am pretty happy to see this class myself. I don't think I will be running in anything but I will be watching this to see how things go.

[QWKSLVR]

anybody else gonna run it this year. im pretty pumped up about it. 1/8th mile stuff, small tires, not enough room for turbo cars to run around me, cant wait. this might turn into my new addiction, class racing...:mad:

Hmmmm. Reeeaaaalllly??:D

It does sound like a cool class to play in. I tried to talk Raj into trying drag radial but he thinks we would look like fags getting beat down. I looked at it as 3-4 passes on a sweet track. Maybe this would be an option, it would definately give us some much needed learning with this boost controller.

[johnquick302]

Hmmmm. Reeeaaaalllly??:D

It does sound like a cool class to play in. I tried to talk Raj into trying drag radial but he thinks we would look like fags getting beat down. I looked at it as 3-4 passes on a sweet track. Maybe this would be an option, it would definately give us some much needed learning with this boost controller.do it up. more people i know there the funner it will be. think panetta and bub are doing it. i wish the nitrous sb cars could weigh a lil less but ill need alot of that ballast to work on the small tire. and ill more than likely only run 1 kit. not worth the 100lbs weight penalty for the 2nd. i didnt even pick up a tenth with the second kit to the 1/8th anyways. ill just put more in the first and mess with that fancy msd box i dont know how to use yet, lol

[bodeanracing]

What width and diameter wheel are you guys thinking of going with.

Mark

[johnquick302]

What width and diameter wheel are you guys thinking of going with.

Markim not 100sure yet, gonna try a 15x10 see how it works out. might have to go with a 8in wheel

[fogged10]

j-quick a "points racer?"

hell if you as good at the track as you do on the street you will have a good year!

[johnquick302]

j-quick a "points racer?"

hell if you as good at the track as you do on the street you will have a good year!

hopefully, im not going to race if i think im gonna get blown out every month. if i can go some rounds i think ill have fun. depending on how much my car slows down with the weights, it looks like i should be middle of the pack and that is with the pro racers that race in the big classes. hopefully for me milans deal does not draw any of those guys.

[Boomer!]

John, are you going to have to run a progressive controller on that tire ?

[johnquick302]

John, are you going to have to run a progressive controller on that tire ? im not gonna, i can use the box to pull timing out and i have 350lbs of weight i can put in the trunk if i need it, i think i can make it work outside right now with that much weight in the trunk, lol....but well see.

[Fryguy302]

Detroitracing.com is paying contingency for any heads up Milan class. $25/runner up, $50 to win.

[Fryguy302]

anybody else gonna run it this year. im pretty pumped up about it. 1/8th mile stuff, small tires, not enough room for turbo cars to run around me, cant wait. this might turn into my new addiction, class racing...:mad:

I think if you do well, you might get addicted. I think you will do well also. Maybe the little tire will make it so the bigger motors don't have so much of an advantage over that little 363.

[johnquick302]

I think if you do well, you might get addicted. I think you will do well also. Maybe the little tire will make it so the bigger motors don't have so much of an advantage over that little 363.thats what im hopin for. sometime this summer the new motor should be done so that will help some cause the car should be figured out by then

[johnquick302]

Detroitracing.com is paying contingency for any heads up Milan class. $25/runner up, $50 to win.thats cool. you should post that on yb. only if they have a dr sticker and member on this site

[Foolsgold80z]

Detroitracing.com is paying contingency for any heads up Milan class. $25/runner up, $50 to win.

Nice! Some support for the local class racers! Thanks Raj!:)

[357windsor]

That's cool. Wonder what kinda times it's gonna take to be in the top 5?

[johnquick302]

That's cool. Wonder what kinda times it's gonna take to be in the top 5?i seen on one site that i googled the record is 5.70s then dougy posted another one in the 5.20s.

[johnquick302]

The records are reset each year. Overall for OSM in 8.5, Dave Rudisell has both records with a 5.727 @ 125.13 from June 2006. We made our first OSM race last week at Morocco and currently hold this years records at 5.80 @ 122.4 on a very conservative tune. I would have stepped it up but with the noise ordinace at Morocco, there just wasn't enough time between rounds . The track was hookin'. Just wish I'd had a chance to change the tune. We've been several 70's this year, with the fastest being 5.716@125.7. By the way both cars are NOS combos. Still waiting for somebody to run the first 5.60 pass on the 8.5's.


Since this post, we reset both 2007 records with a 5.77@123 at the last race in Terre Haute. There has also been two cars in the 60's at the OSCA under tighter rules. Gerald Boyd 5.64 N/A SB and Craig Watson 5.66 SB NOS.
Hope this helps you out. Come on out and join us . It's a blast on the 8.5's. What combo are you planning on running?

[357windsor]

i seen on one site that i googled the record is 5.70s then dougy posted another one in the 5.20s.

Well it was a thought! :lol: Probably just do some index stuff a little bit. Gonna have to get a kit on it soon!

[daveg]

I was talking to Rex Jordan about this awhile ago. He used to run that bad ass green 57 chevy at Milan a few years ago.

Its only 1/8 though? It would be much more fun to attempt a full pass on those little tires.

[johnquick302]

I was talking to Rex Jordan about this awhile ago. He used to run that bad ass green 57 chevy at Milan a few years ago.

Its only 1/8 though? It would be much more fun to attempt a full pass on those little tires.im glad its 1/8th actually. that way i dont have to swap gears to run the different tire. im still gonna grudge race just change wheels and take the weight out. so it should be a easy thing to do that way if it works like that. hope i dont have to change the car around too much suspension wise. tune i can change with the laptop so that is cool.

[357windsor]

im glad its 1/8th actually. that way i dont have to swap gears to run the different tire. im still gonna grudge race just change wheels and take the weight out. so it should be a easy thing to do that way if it works like that. hope i dont have to change the car around too much suspension wise. tune i can change with the laptop so that is cool.

What gear you runnin?

[johnquick302]

actually this guy is the record holder

http://vernhouseracecars.com/

[johnquick302]

What gear you runnin?

4.10

[daveg]

Are you running EFI now? Must be alot of money in laying block these days :)

Good luck with whatever you run. Hope to see all you guys at the track this year. My shit will be slow as hell, but I will at least have fun getting my ass kicked. In a year or two I should be able to run with a few of you guys.

[daveg]

actually this guy is the record holder

http://vernhouseracecars.com/

tey have the rules listed there too http://vernhouseracecars.com/85tirerace.html

I guess Rex was right that it was a down south thing. Sounds fun as hell though.

[johnquick302]

Are you running EFI now? Must be alot of money in laying block these days :)

Good luck with whatever you run. Hope to see all you guys at the track this year. My shit will be slow as hell, but I will at least have fun getting my ass kicked. In a year or two I should be able to run with a few of you guys.no still carb. msd box just controls timing.

[Ridings Automatics]

I wonder if they would let me run the hub caps?:lol:

[357windsor]

I wonder if they would let me run the hub caps?:lol:

How's the car coming?

[daveg]

no still carb. msd box just controls timing.

Thats cool. I had no clue they were that complex. I would be lost with that shit. This is the extent of my computer skills right here ...lol

[fogged10]

Detroitracing.com is paying contingency for any heads up Milan class. $25/runner up, $50 to win.

damn that is very cool of ya raj!

detroitracing.com ftw!

[johnquick302]

Thats cool. I had no clue they were that complex. I would be lost with that shit. This is the extent of my computer skills right here ...lolyeah me too, i dont have a laptop that works it. i used a different one once just to set it up and i havent messed with it since then. only setup the retards and rpm limiters one time, you can download the program if your go to the msd site. its the 7531 box, you can see all the things you can adj, its crazy.

[daveg]

yeah me too, i dont have a laptop that works it. i used a different one once just to set it up and i havent messed with it since then. only setup the retards and rpm limiters one time, you can download the program if your go to the msd site. its the 7531 box, you can see all the things you can adj, its crazy.

Thats a bad motherfucker. Datalogger and timing maps. That thing does everything we used to do with our right foot and a wrench. I must be gettiing old I remember when a playback tach was the shit...lol

[johnquick302]

Thats a bad motherfucker. Datalogger and timing maps. That thing does everything we used to do with our right foot and a wrench. I must be gettiing old I remember when a playback tach was the shit...loleverybody asks why i have my tach down on the floor where i cant see it, but i dont need to see it just the shift light. box does everything else. its cool, i got to learn how to do the "dots" now especially in this class.

[daveg]

everybody asks why i have my tach down on the floor where i cant see it, but i dont need to see it just the shift light. box does everything else. its cool, i got to learn how to do the "dots" now especially in this class.

You are going to need all your focus to keep it straight on that tiny tire.

Record: 5.36 @131.96 MPH 1/8th

Lets hope they dont make the trek out here any time soon. At least not till you guys have a chance to get the combos sorted out. Sounds like a fun class. Lets hope the guys with deep pockets dont feel like trophy hunting like they do in every other class and ruin it for the regular guys like most of you on this site.

[QWKSLVR]

I must be gettiing old I remember when a playback tach was the shit...lol

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[BADBLACKZ]

I wonder if they would let me run the hub caps?:lol:

No problem......................

















As long as you screw them the the wheels ! :D

[dante1120]

Maybe a certain BBC might try this class out as well.whats the weight?

[Fryguy302]

Preliminary Rules Outlaw 8.5 January 15 2009, 4:13 PM


Body & Glass
-Stock appearing interior<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

-Lexan windows allowed
- No wheelie bars

- Must Run Mufflers
Tires
Maximum rear slick allowed is 26 X 8.5 designation (9” as measured)
Tire must be used as intended from manufacturer. No alterations permitted. Slicks only. Commercially available tires only, no test tires.
Power Adders
Single type power adder only
Weights
Small block N/A – 2800 lbs
Small block nitrous – 3150 lbs
Small block turbo & supercharger - 3250
Big block N/A – 3050 lbs
Big block nitrous – 3250 lbs
Big block turbo & supercharger - 3350
Add 100lbs for multi-stage NOS
Deduct 50 lbs for non-intercooled forced induction engine
4 Cylinder deduct 500 lbs from small block weight
6 Cylinder deduct 300 lbs from small block weight
Buick, Pontiac and Oldsmobile OEM engine combinations run at small block weight. Aftermarket and/or aluminum blocks and parts as well as hybrid combos (example: BOP block with Chevy heads) are not eligible for weight break.



Chris Baxter
Race Director

[357windsor]

Thanks Raj.

[daveg]

The rules that were on the other site....

Limited 8.5 class rules
Nitrous Power Adder Plate Type
Single Spray Bar Plate, Diffuser, Perimeter
.082 Conventional Head Small Block
.073 Conventional Head Big Block / Gen III SBC
.055 Non-Conventional Head Small Block / Big Block

Multiple Spray Bar Plate
.059 Conventional Head Small Block
.053 Conventional Head Big Block / Gen III SBC
.036 Non-Conventional Head Small Block / Big Block

Approved Plates

Any Single Spray Bar Plate
NOS Double Cross Plate (Approved P/N’s 02151 12565, 02152, 12665)
ZEX Perimeter Plate (Approved P/N’s 82043, 82040, 82048, 82072)
SpeedTech Diffuser Plate (Approved P/N’s 231-000, 231-010, 231-200,231-210)
NX Gemini Twin Spray Bar Plate (Approved P/N’s TBA)
MAX nitrous Supply Line from Bottle: -6AN
Additional nitrous systems may remain on the vehicle including all plumbing and wiring, but must be capped at the solenoids and wires unhooked or fogger nozzles can be left in manifold with caps.


Engine & Cylinder Heads
Single four barrel carburetor only
Single four barrel carburetor cast intake manifold only
No tunnel ram type intakes
No fabricated sheet metal intake manifolds allowed
No alcohol (gasoline only)
Fuel injection add 50lbs.
302 based combos deduct 75lbs on N/A ans NOS only
air to water cooler add 50lbs

Conventional Cylinder Head Definition
Any commercially available cylinder heads that maintains the original production engine cylinder head valve angles (+/- 3 degrees) and port layout.

Non Conventional Cylinder Head Definition
Any commercially available cylinder head that does not meet the specification of the conventional cylinder head definition. (Examples: 18/15 deg SBC GM, 18/17/16/15 deg Dart SBC, 18,16,15,13 deg Brodix SBC, 14/12 deg Pro-Action SBC, SBF Brodix Neal, SBF Victor, SBF Victor Glidden, SB2, Splayed/Canted Valve GM, SBF Bennett Canted Valve Ford, Chrysler P7, Aftermarket LS1/LS6 Heads, SBF Yates, SBF Pro-Kings, SBF Man-o-War, Big Chiefs, Big Dukes, Predator BBChry, PB Series Brodix BBC, SBF SC1, SBF D3, Brodix BD 2000/1010 SBC, Brodix GB Series SBC, BBC Raptor, BBC Profiler) If your cylinder head is not listed in the above examples, you must call ahead for clarification.

Weight Breaks

Nitrous Assisted
· 3200 lbs. Small block with nitrous

· 3400 lbs. Big block with nitrous

Forced Indution 76 mm turbo F1R YSI or smaller (SB only)
. 3250 lbs small block blower w/serpetine belt
. 3250 lbs small block 76mm turbo
. 3350 lbs small block blower w/ cog belt

Naturally Aspirated
· 2800 lbs. Small block N/A with conventional heads

· 2950 lbs. Small block N/A with non-conventional cylinder heads

· 3100 lbs. Big block N/A with conventional cylinder heads

· 3200 lbs. Big block N/A with non-conventional or non-wedge heads

Transmissions

· Any OEM type automatic or manual transmissions allowed.
· Add 150 lbs for non-OEM manual clutchless transmissions (Examples: G-Force, Liberty, Jerico)

· Aftermarket heavy-duty cases allowed

Suspension

· Aftermarket front suspension components allowed (must bolt-on in stock locations) Factory frame rails required on front of vehicles in stock position.

· Front coilover shocks allowed on non strut vehicles as long as shock is mounted to lower A arm in stock location.

· Aftermarket stock type rear suspension allowed (must bolt-on in stock locations) Factory frame rails required on rear of vehicles in stock position. (Small Mini-Tubs OK)

· Rear coilover shocks allowed

. ladder bars OK

· Leaf springs may be moved in-board

· Relocation of rear shock allowed

· No wheelie bars, four links allowed

· Anti-sway bars allowed

Tire
Spec tire 26x8.5 tire ONLY


Vehicle
Must have full stock appearing interior with dash and two front seats (no metal visible-must be carpeted)
Stock firewall must be retained and in stock location
Notching of firewall for clearance of bell housing and distributor is acceptable
Rack and pinion steering allowed
Rear seat may be removed
Windows must be operational
Lightweight body components limited to hood, trunk lid, and bumpers
Hoods are required on vehicles. (In the event of a hood blow-off during competition the vehicle will be allowed to remain in competition for the remainder of event without a hood as long as minimum weight is met. Must be fixed prior to next event)
Must have mufflers
Cars must be driven to staging lanes and cross scales after completion of a pass without towing.

[Onefastgbody]

Cant wait to run this class !!! Whats the world turning to when johnnyquick has become a class racer :)

[Onefastgbody]

I cant wait to see my car 4in lower with the small tires on it this year, should look sweet !!

[johnquick302]

Cant wait to run this class !!! Whats the world turning to when johnnyquick has become a class racer :)im just chasin you around. you wouldnt race me at the no et deal so now i got to run 8.5 to get a race off with you.

[Fryguy302]

im just chasin you around. you wouldnt race me at the no et deal so now i got to run 8.5 to get a race off with you.

No excuses when everyone is at weight and on the exact same tire. Should be fun.

[Onefastgbody]

No excuses when everyone is at weight and on the exact same tire. Should be fun.
Exactly, equal rules makes boys into men !!!

I awailt the challange johnnyboy !!

[johnquick302]

Exactly, equal rules makes boys into men !!!

I awailt the challange johnnyboy !!but i can always take the weight back out and go fast again.

[Onefastgbody]

but i can always take the weight back out and go fast again.

If I had weight to take out I could go fast too :)

[johnquick302]

If I had weight to take out I could go fast too :)whos fault is it you got a heavy car?

[Foolsgold80z]

Damn, I can be lighter than a nitrous smallblock.

[Ridings Automatics]

How's the car coming?

I'll have it out and the bugs worked out by end of may.

[357windsor]

I'll have it out and the bugs worked out by end of may.

Cool, haven't seen it in a few years.

[wheelz357]

gonna be a great class to race, cant wait to check it out

[Onefastgbody]

gonna be a great class to race, cant wait to check it out
No your just excited because there will be heads up racing you dont have to race and can get drunk !!!

You get to do it on saturday nights

I get to do it on friday nights :)